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Posted - 05/24/2007 :  08:46:09  Show Profile  Visit Administrator's Homepage
I would welcome your comments concerning this lecture.

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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  06:07:33  Show Profile
Before I could really comment, I would need to know how the slide show is going to used. Is is for a website? A presentation at a conference? A class? The essential different is whether or not you will be speaking in addition to the slide show.

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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  08:46:09  Show Profile  Visit Administrator's Homepage
Hi Redstar,

This is a slide show presentation meant only to stimulate discussion within our community.

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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  08:51:27  Show Profile
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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  11:46:59  Show Profile
Dr. Long,

I saw this thoughtful and thought-provoking film about Hitler some time ago. I believe it is called 'Downfall.' The movie left lingering thoughts and many questions........'guru'
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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  16:55:46  Show Profile
What struck me most was that there were no women in the slide show. Is it because there have never been women leaders with these types of disorders? And if so, why would that be?
...Aqua

Good point Aqua,

Throughout history, except for the last 50 years, males with Narcissistic + Paranoid + Antisocial Personality Disorders have ensured that women never were given enough power to challenge their male dominance.

What is your viewpoint on this?

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What I got out of the slide show as of now, is motivation to work harder in therapy so I don't stumble down the path of my parents who in the realm of our little family unit, might be described as dictators, in a certain sense.

Ugh. Sadly, up until seeing the light after being hospitalized and getting counseling, I have for most of my life, followed in the misguided footsteps of my mentally ill and untreated adult-child "parents."

I can understand then, why people who are part of an oppressive regime--(either working for the regime or the oppressed)--why such a bad regime would not be challenged. Why? I think a big reason why a horrible regime would remain in place is because people just don't know of anything different or better. The people might believe it is just "the way it is."

It's my hunch. Personally, I feel more empowered when I start learning about more and more alternatives for myself and loved ones and my personal rights and privileges.

-EA
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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  20:33:21  Show Profile
I agree completely with that point and thought a similar thing. However, later this afternoon I started wondering about some of the Queens in the monarchy of Great Britain for instance.

I do not know a lot about them, but I have always found it fascinating that within the monarchy the throne was passed to women during times that were particularily patriarchal. I do not know if this is true, but I have heard that the term "Bloody Mary" refers to Mary Queen of Scots, perhaps she has a past that fits some of your discriptions.

Interesting lecture regardless, but I'd really be interested to see what those personality traits look like in a woman.

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Posted - 05/30/2007 :  06:11:27  Show Profile
Hi aqua

I have read extensively about the female monarchs specifically, Mary Queen of Scots. I am fascinated by her in particular. I am not convinced she fits into any of the categories discussed here, although, I am only going by what I have read, and perhaps didnt grasp all of it.

As was the custom of the time, and to preserve her life most likely, Mary was taken from her Scottish home,and was raised in the Court of France, and was married to the Dauphin at a very early age. 13 or 14 I think.

She was eventually to return to lead her Scottish homeland against the English, and was manhandled the entire time. The men set the rules....she followed them. A couple of times, she tried to do things differently to no avail. She was eventually imprisoned by Queen Elizabeth until her beheading.

Queen Elizabeth was by far a more dictatorial ruler, and even she, I dont believe held those characteristics such as Hitler had.

Now...I wonder, where does someone like Karla Homolka fit into the picture Dr. Long? What personality traits would she have to have to be a party to Paul Bernardo's sickness?

lol....sorry for the MQS thing...I love her.

Laurie

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Hi Laurie,

I believe Karla Homolka would met the diagnostic criterion for being a sociopath.

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well i'm libertarian which is another word for an anarchist capitalist... of sorts. I don't think cities and complex government are healthy, that we should live in groups of no more than a couple of hundred with a leader who knows each person individually. unfortunately there are too damn many of us to do that so I recognize the necessity for complex government.

where government becomes corrupt is in how much control it has over people's daily choices. this is why I'm libertarian. The government should not budget my personal finances (which is a difficult thing for me to say because that puts me, effectively, on the side that is against universal health care.. but i never said i wasn't a hypocrite) The government should not be able to tell me what I can or can't eat, how drunk i want to get or how I raise my children (with special circumstances of course for children who are abused or neglected)

When the government starts to do this, it means the people are too disorganized to lead themselves, or they think they are. (Think Germany post WWI) This opens the door for corruption because it means that people can be easily whipped into a frenzy for a guy that takes over the responsibility of personal care. The only person that would agree to lead a nation of followers is probably a control freak.

"He who would distinguish the true from the false must have an adequate idea of what is true and false." - BENEDICT SPINOZA
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I can't believe how docile some people are.
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